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SJonni · **Posted:** Fri Mar 26, 2010 9:04 am

Also, reading(over at IMDB) about all the people saying stuff like "We should just nuke the shit out of Japan again, fucking animals!" makes me facepalm.

Celtic1888 · **Joined:** Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:03 pm **Posts:** 1454

Nuke Japan? The hell with that, I happen to like my tv and sushi...

Pfc.Jackson89 · **Posted:** Sat Mar 27, 2010 12:52 am

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16 out of 74 people found the following review useful.
very Disappointed, 22 March 2010
Author: mysteroctober from United States

Unfortunately, I missed the first episode last week. I got to watch both of them over the weekend and silently whispered WTF!....??

I am sorry to all who like this kind of stuff for one. Let me be honest though. There is nothing there. I originally loved BoB because of the story, as written by the leading character. It was full of history, gripping drama, war, more war and then at the end Holocaust. I cried many tears watching the series over and over. I am a product of veterans, as my father, uncle and grand fathers all have been to various wars fought by Americans. I am especially fond of WWII. I did a great report on the Pacific for History in high school that amazed my teachers, so when I heard the the makers of BoB, (not to mention the names directly, but very talented directors and producers that I love to watch), had in turn made a drama about the Pacific, I was ecstatic. There are so many facets of the Pacific that bring stories of men that really suffered, very differently than those men who fought in Europe. I mean, ships in the ocean that were sank, and men floating for months in the ocean while there company was eaten by sharks, or drowned themselves in a crazy stupor. The men that were marched for miles, starving and beaten, could we not find a script from one of these books? BoB Europe was a great book. I have no idea where they came up with the story or stories for The Pacific. First of all we all know that men were killed, friends were lost. Relationships that were randomly united by war and built during boot camp came crashing to a complete stop with just a step in the wrong direction. This is war and we have heard this many many times. What is different between the Pacific and Europe. Do we not have just as many heroes in the Pacific? Did they not fight different battles? I mean can the producers be a little more creative and not give us the same ole story line again. I was really watching at one point and I could have sworn the battle was the same, instead of forest and snow, we just had palm trees and heat. That brings up another point, I didn't feel the heat either. When I watch BoB, I shiver as the men are crawling in sleet, rain and snow. I can feel how cold it is in Europe. I do know that the Pacific is HOT and HUMID. Where is that? I get the whole idea of telling the story from different angles, from different areas. I just didn't feel it. As a whole, I will try to stick it out but this is probably on one watch series then I will forget it ever happened.

Mil Mart Militaria · **Joined:** Wed Mar 10, 2010 6:46 am **Posts:** 128

Whats he want ? A scratch & sniff viewing experience ????

Pfc.Jackson89 wrote:

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I do know that the Pacific is HOT and HUMID. Where is that?

tlwmsu · **Posted:** Sat Mar 27, 2010 8:27 am

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I have no idea where they came up with the story or stories for The Pacific.

Really? Is it that hard to figure it out? :roll:

Silt · **Joined:** Tue Jul 31, 2007 1:21 pm **Posts:** 244

This one really gets me angry.

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Please, please, please, Tom Hanks, no more World War II stuff, OK? That plea is from Brian Donovan, who points out that, among Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers, and The Pacific, “it is entirely possible that Tom Hanks has spent more time making entertainment about World War II than we did fighting the ridiculous thing in the first place.”

http://www.newser.com/story/84420/ok-to ... ready.html

How can anyone, no matter their level of disillusionment, think WW2 was ridiculous?!

Pfc.Jackson89 · **Posted:** Sat Mar 27, 2010 4:47 pm

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Marine Recruitment ??, 23 March 2010
1/10
Author: snoopsimpson from Australia

*** This review may contain spoilers ***

Dear o dear , i thought this series might have at least tried to live up to Band Of Brothers but watching the second episode really just reminded me of an old 50's john Wayne movie. You know, the ones where thousands of enemy soldiers are slaughtered with only one or two US casualty's. Hand to hand combat scenes reminiscent of an episode of Batman where we have the bad guys patiently waiting in line to attack the hero, plenty of one liners during the battle scenes etc. Maybe this is what people want to see on television,it definitely worked in the Fiftys.

I can only imagine this series is geared towards younger men who might be entertaining the idea of a career in the US army.

oh my god

Alakazou · **Joined:** Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:07 am **Posts:** 39

Pfc.Jackson89 wrote:

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Marine Recruitment ??, 23 March 2010
1/10
Author: snoopsimpson from Australia

*** This review may contain spoilers ***

Dear o dear , i thought this series might have at least tried to live up to Band Of Brothers but watching the second episode really just reminded me of an old 50's john Wayne movie. You know, the ones where thousands of enemy soldiers are slaughtered with only one or two US casualty's. Hand to hand combat scenes reminiscent of an episode of Batman where we have the bad guys patiently waiting in line to attack the hero, plenty of one liners during the battle scenes etc. Maybe this is what people want to see on television,it definitely worked in the Fiftys.

I can only imagine this series is geared towards younger men who might be entertaining the idea of a career in the US army.

oh my god

Funny

Honestly this guy need to read about Basilone

Angry European · **Joined:** Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:12 pm **Posts:** 132

Silt wrote:

This one really gets me angry.

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Please, please, please, Tom Hanks, no more World War II stuff, OK? That plea is from Brian Donovan, who points out that, among Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers, and The Pacific, “it is entirely possible that Tom Hanks has spent more time making entertainment about World War II than we did fighting the ridiculous thing in the first place.”

http://www.newser.com/story/84420/ok-to ... ready.html

How can anyone, no matter their level of disillusionment, think WW2 was ridiculous?!

All wars are.

SemperDoc · **Joined:** Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:35 am **Posts:** 165

Angry European wrote:

Silt wrote:

This one really gets me angry.

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Please, please, please, Tom Hanks, no more World War II stuff, OK? That plea is from Brian Donovan, who points out that, among Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers, and The Pacific, “it is entirely possible that Tom Hanks has spent more time making entertainment about World War II than we did fighting the ridiculous thing in the first place.”

http://www.newser.com/story/84420/ok-to ... ready.html

How can anyone, no matter their level of disillusionment, think WW2 was ridiculous?!

All wars are.

Especially that Revolutionary war, so ridiculous.

Scaeva808 · **Joined:** Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:07 pm **Posts:** 110

tavus wrote:

hello pacific fans. I'm new here. I just want to add this thing i found in the
HBO pacific talk forum. This Japanese nationalist is pissing me off on the HBO forum. He is a perfect example of the Japanese education at work.

http://www.hbo.com/the-pacific/index.ht ... index.html

While the comments are idiotic, the person posting them is just trolling. He's not really a Japanese nationalist, he's just someone pretending to be one. Read the comment by Stevie R in the 'How come the Japanese are portrayed as villains' thread. He does an excellent job of exposing Hiroki for the troll that he is.

I don't know whether Hiroki is actually Korean or Chinese as Stevie R claims, but he definitely isn't Japanese.

ww2cents · **Posted:** Sun Mar 28, 2010 8:15 am

Best not to get caught up in the idiocy of trolls and kids trying to ignite controversy. When a dog barks do you normally bark back?

Dmke2010 · **Posted:** Sun Mar 28, 2010 9:23 am

Angry European wrote:

Silt wrote:

This one really gets me angry.

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Please, please, please, Tom Hanks, no more World War II stuff, OK? That plea is from Brian Donovan, who points out that, among Saving Private Ryan, Band of Brothers, and The Pacific, “it is entirely possible that Tom Hanks has spent more time making entertainment about World War II than we did fighting the ridiculous thing in the first place.”

http://www.newser.com/story/84420/ok-to ... ready.html

How can anyone, no matter their level of disillusionment, think WW2 was ridiculous?!

All wars are.

Absolutely agreed. However the fighting to make peace was ridiculously necessary..

Scaeva808 · **Joined:** Tue Sep 22, 2009 1:07 pm **Posts:** 110

I emailed that person to tell them how much their review sucked. He should try actually reading With the Old Breed at Peleliu and Okinawa and Helmet for my Pillow before complaining about the source material The Pacific is based on.

I also found his comment about the producers not finding just as many heores in the Pacific a bit odd. What exactly did he find to be less heroic about the men portrayed in the Pacific? Was he sleeping during the scene where Basilone earns his Medal of Honor?

I'm a huge Band of Brothers fan, and I think Ronald Speirs was the man. His dash back and forth through the Germans to link up with another company was probably the single greatest act of heroism portrayed in that series. That being said, Basilone's actions over that 48 hours on Guadalcanal > Speirs sprint through the Germans.

Pfc.Jackson89 wrote:

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16 out of 74 people found the following review useful.
very Disappointed, 22 March 2010
Author: mysteroctober from United States

Unfortunately, I missed the first episode last week. I got to watch both of them over the weekend and silently whispered WTF!....??

I am sorry to all who like this kind of stuff for one. Let me be honest though. There is nothing there. I originally loved BoB because of the story, as written by the leading character. It was full of history, gripping drama, war, more war and then at the end Holocaust. I cried many tears watching the series over and over. I am a product of veterans, as my father, uncle and grand fathers all have been to various wars fought by Americans. I am especially fond of WWII. I did a great report on the Pacific for History in high school that amazed my teachers, so when I heard the the makers of BoB, (not to mention the names directly, but very talented directors and producers that I love to watch), had in turn made a drama about the Pacific, I was ecstatic. There are so many facets of the Pacific that bring stories of men that really suffered, very differently than those men who fought in Europe. I mean, ships in the ocean that were sank, and men floating for months in the ocean while there company was eaten by sharks, or drowned themselves in a crazy stupor. The men that were marched for miles, starving and beaten, could we not find a script from one of these books? BoB Europe was a great book. I have no idea where they came up with the story or stories for The Pacific. First of all we all know that men were killed, friends were lost. Relationships that were randomly united by war and built during boot camp came crashing to a complete stop with just a step in the wrong direction. This is war and we have heard this many many times. What is different between the Pacific and Europe. Do we not have just as many heroes in the Pacific? Did they not fight different battles? I mean can the producers be a little more creative and not give us the same ole story line again. I was really watching at one point and I could have sworn the battle was the same, instead of forest and snow, we just had palm trees and heat. That brings up another point, I didn't feel the heat either. When I watch BoB, I shiver as the men are crawling in sleet, rain and snow. I can feel how cold it is in Europe. I do know that the Pacific is HOT and HUMID. Where is that? I get the whole idea of telling the story from different angles, from different areas. I just didn't feel it. As a whole, I will try to stick it out but this is probably on one watch series then I will forget it ever happened.

SJonni · **Posted:** Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:19 pm

What the heck?

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First episode I watched I really liked but the second really made me think again. The scene where the machine gunner is shooting down HUNDREDS of Japaneses soldiers who are just RUNNING to the machine gun and not even shooting. Don't tell me they didn't have machine guns. Don't tell me they had no artillery. Now the good things. The film overall shows the mood of the war. A lot of dead soldiers shown. My favorite is the dramatic moment where the main character finds personal belongings of the soldier that American's tortured. That was one of only things that showed some realism. The film is not bad, but unrealism made it a 4.

Celtic1888 · **Joined:** Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:03 pm **Posts:** 1454

SJonni wrote:

What the heck?

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First episode I watched I really liked but the second really made me think again. The scene where the machine gunner is shooting down HUNDREDS of Japaneses soldiers who are just RUNNING to the machine gun and not even shooting. Don't tell me they didn't have machine guns. Don't tell me they had no artillery. Now the good things. The film overall shows the mood of the war. A lot of dead soldiers shown. My favorite is the dramatic moment where the main character finds personal belongings of the soldier that American's tortured. That was one of only things that showed some realism. The film is not bad, but unrealism made it a 4.

Japaneses?

I won't get into the rest... :roll:

tlwmsu · **Posted:** Tue Mar 30, 2010 12:39 pm

SJonni wrote:

What the heck?

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First episode I watched I really liked but the second really made me think again. The scene where the machine gunner is shooting down HUNDREDS of Japaneses soldiers who are just RUNNING to the machine gun and not even shooting. Don't tell me they didn't have machine guns. Don't tell me they had no artillery. Now the good things. The film overall shows the mood of the war. A lot of dead soldiers shown. My favorite is the dramatic moment where the main character finds personal belongings of the soldier that American's tortured. That was one of only things that showed some realism. The film is not bad, but unrealism made it a 4.

@#$ @#$% it!

OK, I *knew* dumb people were going to make dumb comments once this series started, but can they at least do a little research about the facts before they declare it unrealistic?

Pfc.Jackson89 · **Posted:** Tue Mar 30, 2010 8:48 pm

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Generally this feels like a glossed over half covered for modesty version of WW2 in the Pacific, maybe because they wanted to make it a show for the whole family and not just for the guys. WW2 for Mom and the little sisters, so to speak. It would have done the show more service, had they gone realistic, gritty and gore. Or focused the whole show on a single battle or campaign and elaborated deeply on that. As is it's WW2 in the Pacific on fast forward.

This is so ridiculous. :roll:

Celtic1888 · **Joined:** Tue Nov 10, 2009 1:03 pm **Posts:** 1454

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American GI's are famous for being silent about war experiences. It has happened thousands and thousands of times that the an old man will die and in the bottom drawer of his burea will be an old cigar box with a medals, citations, clippings and letters, that nobody knew about. Oh, they knew he was a vet but not much more. So if vets don't talk about their war experiences they certainly wouldn't embarrass their wives, children and girlfriends with stories of the women they met in Melbourne, London, Paris, Hong Kong, Penang, Malaysia (ahem) and Sydney, would they? American men are first class gentlemen and the best fighters on Earth. HOOYAH!

Geez, I gotta stop drinking! I completely hallucinated that whole Melbourne section in "Helmet For My Pillow"! Come to think of it, I may have hallucinated the whole book since vets never mention their experiences, so they certainly wouldn't write about them...

In fact, I may have imagined the whole War!!!

:roll:

tlwmsu · **Posted:** Wed Mar 31, 2010 11:31 am

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American men are first class gentlemen

American *Marines* on the other hand...

tokando · **Joined:** Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:35 am **Posts:** 29

The Pacific can't shine Dick Winters' boots! It feels and plays out more Hollywood than Mid Pacific or how about this The first "Kurahee" episode of Band Of Brothers was pretty boring in terms of action.

Did the first episode of The Pacific mirror this? Was there much action? How many nips bit the dust?

Thanks in advance.

EDIT. Now please tell how much action was in the second.

Angry European · **Joined:** Wed Mar 10, 2010 12:12 pm **Posts:** 132

Episodes I and II were full of action, episode III was the Currahee of TP.

Also, I did not understand the rest of your post.

NIN_Hunter · **Joined:** Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:53 pm **Posts:** 670

AyeLewis is that you?

Pfc.Jackson89 · **Posted:** Wed Mar 31, 2010 7:14 pm

Just an unfortunate spelling error that made me laugh:

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i felt nad for lacky at the end of pt.3 it seemed like dude was head over heels for the geek women with the nice @ss, but then he got the boot.

PattonEngineer · **Joined:** Wed Jan 13, 2010 3:17 pm **Posts:** 77

NIN_Hunter wrote:

AyeLewis is that you?

Actually, I think that's Hinkle!

tokando · **Joined:** Wed Mar 24, 2010 1:35 am **Posts:** 29

Angry European wrote:

Episodes I and II were full of action, episode III was the Currahee of TP.

Also, I did not understand the rest of your post.

its from a imdb user im just as confused as you are but it was also the fact the he spelled Currahee with a k

NIN_Hunter · **Joined:** Tue Jun 23, 2009 2:53 pm **Posts:** 670

tokando don't bother posting anything that poster writes. He did it to make fun of people who actually said things like that plus he's like a semi-troll.

Warmaster506 · **Joined:** Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:30 pm **Posts:** 175

Its sad that this series will be measured on how much action it has, due to the ADD kids that run their ignorant mouths all over the internet

DivineIntervention · **Joined:** Wed Dec 31, 2008 8:35 am **Posts:** 220

Warmaster506 wrote:

Its sad that this series will be measured on how much action it has, due to the ADD kids that run their ignorant mouths all over the internet

Same sentiment here.

uss intrepid · **Joined:** Thu Apr 01, 2010 11:20 pm **Posts:** 44

Angry European wrote:

Episodes I and II were full of action, episode III was the Currahee of TP.

Also, I did not understand the rest of your post.

I would disagree that episodes 1 & 2 were full of action. There was some combat but the screen time was limited. The series did a very poor job of helping a novice viewer understand what Basilone did. More time was dedicated to the scene with the doctor and the heart murmur! Plus all the letter writing, supply stealing, and "Marines having fun" vibe that is taking precedence over the sacrifice and combat you would expect.

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