Warmaster, whaddya want to bet half the complaints will be "That stuff was made up, combat wasn't like that in the '40's!!"

I liked the 3rd ep.it showed how after being so close to death they had to love hard, drink hard and play hard especially knowing they were going back to the fight again and may never see what life has to offer.
for me the proof in the pudding will be how they portray Peleliu..I hope they do it the justice it finally deserves...

Finally had the wife watch 'Peleliu 1944: Horror in the Pacific'. She was basically like The goobs on IMDB have no idea what they are in store for. I guarantee you, some will say the horrific nature and some specific instances are made up.

Will be watching Ep 3 again tonight with the wife...as I said before, I still enjoyed it...just not as much as the first two episodes.

My friend who's been watching was really shocked at some of the Guadalcanal stuff. I told her to be ready, it's going to get much worse. I don't think she quite believes me...

What's interesting is that on IMDB, the Pacific has a rating of 9.5/10 out of something like 3,000 votes! That's pretty high for a TV series already.

In this episode Bob goes to a greek family for Lunch. Asks mother why did she come here. She replies " Turks invaded in 1922 and Burn it down, all gone. If you survived you fled like my mom and me" What an ignorant lie!! The greeks invaded izmir(smyrna) 7 may 1919 and defeated in 1922. This cant be an innocent mistake! I think HBO must apologize because of twisting a historical truth.

It may be Wikipedia but http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Fire_of_Smyrna. That sounds a lot like what she described.

How about "I can't believe THIS got it's own episode but Okinawa only got one." Yeah I know that's been played out but I won't shut up about it until I see episode 9. The episode wasn't bad but it wasn't that great either, gave some character development but I'm ready for the series to pick up.

Bet the Okinawa episode will say all it needs to say in one episode.

Anyway, starting next week I'll bet we're about to get our minds blown by this series.



What can I say, I'm an optimist...

I gotta say that the episode preview was awesome.

Ok there is fire, there is a tragedy, may be Turks were responsible but remember, there was an on going invasion by greeks. By Greeks, not Turks. This mistake was totaly absurd and on purpose.

Have to add this also..


A French journalist who had covered the War of Independence arrived in Smyrna shortly after the flames had died down, she wrote:[23]

The first defeat of the nationalists had been this enormous fire. Within forty-eight hours, it had destroyed the only hope of immediate economic recovery. For this reason, when I heard people accusing the winners themselves of having provoked it to get rid of the Greeks and Armenians who still lived in the city, I could only shrug off the absurdity of such talk. One had to know the Turkish leaders very little indeed to attribute to them so generously a taste for unnecessary suicide.

Alexander MacLachlan, the missionary president of International College of İzmir who has also been an eyewitness to the fire states that Turkish soldiers seen to have setting the fire were actually disguised Armenians. An article posted on The Times of September 25, 1922 about MacLachlan is quoted as follows:[24]

The Turks did not massacre Greeks, as Greeks had done to Turks in May 1919. About the worst the Turkish Army did was force captured Greek soldiers to shout "Long live Mustafa Kemal" (in return to their forcing Turks to shout "Zito Venizelos" when they entered Smyrna) as they marched into detention. Turkish soldiers protected International College during the disruption of the occupation; a Turkish cavalryman rescued MacLachlan from irregulars who nearly beat the missionary to death while trying to loot the agricultural buildings of the college. A three-day Smyrna fire (September 13–15), which Turks made every effort to control, destroyed nearly a square mile in Greek and Armenian areas and made two hundred thousand people homeless. Included in this loss was the American Board's Collegiate Institute for Girls. MacLachlan's investigation of the fire's origin led to the conviction that Armenian terrorists, dressed in Turkish uniforms, fired the city. Apparently the terrorists were attempting to bring Western intervention. Informing Washington of a three million Dollars claim by the American Board against the Ankara government, Barton requested through an aide that the U.S. participate in any conference planned by the Allies to rewrite the Treaty of Sevres. As the West talked of negotiating with the Kemalists, part of the American public began to realize that Armenianism and godliness were not identical. Ever since missionaries in the nineteenth century had become the dominant U.S. concern in the Ottoman Empire, opinion in America increasingly favored Christian minorities.

those numbers indeed are verry good, but i think the people kept BOB little bit in mind becuz i dont think you can give such high number afther only such short period of time since the series are started

Oh my god. I knew there would be a ton of bitching once I heard Greeks vs Turks mentioned in last night's episode.

Ah, that part was all Greek to me...







I'm here all week, folks!

Just my .02....

I think the "debauchery" in Australia needed telling.

Did it need a relatively long sex scene in this film to let us know he had sex with Stella? I don't think so.
A nice little fade in fade out of several Marines with several different women, or of Stella dropping her clothes or she and he cuddling.
It, in no way, offended me, as a matter of fact that actress is beautiful etc....

Just don't think that much "detail" was necessary to show what was told by the narrator and the living vets at the beginning. IMHO.

The episode was good though, not my favorite.

I look forward to Lengayen Gulf, Luzon, Corregidor, Manila .....etc.

AND I want them to say something nice about the Army

Coz, not sure how to break this to ya, pal...

yep, better get used to disappointment

i nearly choked on my peanuts at that scene

Word.

I enjoyed the episode. My main gripe is that so many of the great moments in Leckie's book were absent. Overall though I was happy with it and I am looking forward to next week.


oh and btw....Isabel Lucas is a goddess

This was probably my favorite episode so far, because there was a good amount of character development, especially with Leckie.

Oh, and you got to love some of the people bitching over at IMBD. Some of the people that complained about the lack of character development in the first two episodes are now complaining about the lack of action in Episode 3. You just can't please some! Also I got a kick out of the people bitching about the sex scenes and nudity. Graphic violence is totally cool but you need to cover your eyes if there are a few naked bits on screen?

Dog, my old man was part of the "Return to the Rock". I was an amazing battle, intel said about 800 Japanese, there were 6,700 killed, 50 wounded and 19 prisoners. All that said, it's not part of this story.

Call me a sucker for a “love story”, but I liked Ep 3. I think it’s fair to say that the episodes are being judged by how much action takes place, and if there isn’t enough fighting it’s considered boring or a waste of time. I guess that reflects what an audience looks for these days. Certainly BOB had at least equal parts fighting and dialogue, if not more dialogue.

I think episodes like Ep. 3 is essential to character development and development of a connection between the character and the audience. Even though this is a war series, and war is primarily about conflict, I think too much of anything can make a series boring.

From what it sounds like, the rest of the series will appeal to all the action hungry viewers, so I think when this series concludes it will earn a passing grade from most everyone.

Guess Episode 10 will also be hated, since the war will be over at that point.


I watched Part 3 again last night and I liked it even more than I did the first viewing. Maybe I'm just easily pleased but I think it was well done and will fit in nicely with the rest of the episodes.

And the guy passing out at reveille still cracked me up...

You are wrong sir! Its all bout twisting history. My "bitching" is only for this. And just trying to explain which is right and wrong. And also i realised that the winners couldnt make history anymore. Only Tv knows which is real...or not.

I would tell them to read a book and quit listening to ignorant teachers

Reading might be a bit of a stretch for some of them ,though...

Newb alert!

Been the uber troll here for a long time ramping up to the broadcast. Really enjoy the site.

A few of my 2 cents.....Defintely hard to follow if you are not familair with the charecters. Every Monday I have to go into work and fill in the holes with my co-workers at which time things make more sense to them. IMO (so far) it's almost if they bit off more than they could chew with the telling of the seperate stories. For lots of folks that I know who have seen it they are still having some trouble identifying charecters, although not as much after episode 3. Also the flow of the stories seems disjointed and have the feel of hopping all over the place with nothing to bridge one scene to the next. With that said I am really liking it and these are really just some ticky tac observations.

I also wanted to throw my lid into the topic of the sex scene. I, believe me, have zero problem with that fine piece of booty...she is tiiight. But I have a 15 yo daughter who is a big history buff. She has watched SPR and BOB I thnik more times than myself. She wants to go to college to teach history (thank you God). Anyways she has watched the whole series with me and it creeped me out a little watching that scene with her. I explained to her the whole background and mentality of the Marines there and she is no prude. At times I think she knows more than me in that dept lol...I just felt they could have conveyed the fact that they were having sex a little more subtlely and not so much of RL drilling away....I wasn't massively offended or anything like that just felt they could have doen it differently while still getting the message across.

Ultimately though it's a great series so far and every week I look forward to Sunday night.

And again great forum!

I don't know. Like many others, I liked "Points" in BoB -which had no combat in eps. 1,9,and 10. Pacific only lacks this in two: 3 and 10. Not so bad for the action lovers.